Monday, September 7, 2009

** conclusive ** - 9/11 was an inside job

Was 9/11 a false flag operation? A false flag operation occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces secretly pretend to be a targeted enemy while attacking their own forces or people. The attack is then falsely blamed on the enemy to justify going to war against that enemy.

The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy's flag was hung instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, it was called a "false flag."

There are many examples of false flag attacks through history. For example, it is widely known that the Nazis, in Operation Himmler, faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland.

And it has now been persuasively argued — as shown, for example, in this History Channel video — that Nazis set fire to their own parliament, the Reichstag, and blamed that fire on others. The Reichstag fire was the watershed event which justified Hitler's seizure of power and suspension of liberties.

And in the early 1950s, agents of an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind "evidence" implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers). Israel's Defense Minister was brought down by the scandal, along with the entire Israeli government. Click here for verification.

The Russian KGB apparently conducted a wave of bombings in Russia in order to justify war against Chechnya and put Vladimir Putin into power (see also this essay and this report). And the Turkish government has been caught bombing its own and blaming it on a rebel group in order to justify a crackdown on that group. Muslim governments also play this game. For example, the well-respected former Indonesian president claimed that their government had a role in the Bali bombings.

This sounds nuts, right? You've never heard of this "false flag terrorism," where a government attacks its own people then blames others in order to justify its goals, right? And you are skeptical of the statements discussed above? Please take a look at these historical quotes:

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - U.S. President James Madison

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

What about the U.S.?

Is it logical to assume that, even if other countries have carried out false flag operations (especially horrible regimes such as, say, the Nazis or Stalin), the U.S. has never done so? Well, as documented by the New York Times, Iranians working for the C.I.A. in the 1950's posed as Communists and staged bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected president (see also this essay).

And, as confirmed by a former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence, NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and blamed communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: "You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

Moreover, recently declassified U.S. Government documents show that in the 1960s, the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan code-named Operation Northwoods to blow up American airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. The operation was not carried out only because the Kennedy administration refused to implement these Pentagon plans.

For lots more on the astonishing Operation Northwoods, see the ABC news report; the official declassified documents; and watch this interview with James Bamford, the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings. One quote from the Northwoods documents states: "A 'Remember the Maine' incident could be arranged: We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

What about Al-Qaeda?

You might think Al-Qaeda is different. It is very powerful, organized, and out to get us, right? Consider this Los Angeles Times article, reviewing a BBC documentary entitled The Power of Nightmares, which shows that the threat from Al Qaeda has been vastly overblown (and see this article on who is behind the hype). And former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski testified to the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative."

And did you know that the FBI had penetrated the cell which carried out the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but had – at the last minute – cancelled the plan to have its FBI infiltrator substitute fake powder for real explosives, against the infiltrator's strong wishes (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view)? See also this TV news report.

Have you heard that the CIA is alleged to have met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11? Did you know that years after 9/11 the FBI first stated that it did not have sufficient evidence to prosecute Bin Laden for 9/11? The agency apparently still does not have any hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the crime (see also this partial confirmation by the Washington Post). And did you see the statement by the CIA commander in charge of the capture that the U.S. let Bin Laden escape from Afghanistan?

Have you heard that the anthrax attacks – which were sent along with notes purportedly written by Islamic terrorists – used a weaponized anthrax strain from the top U.S. bioweapons facility? Indeed, top bioweapons experts have stated that the anthrax attack may have been a CIA test "gone wrong." For more on this, see this article by a former NSA and naval intelligence officer and this statement by a distinguished law professor and bioterror expert (and this one).

It is also interesting that the only Congress-members mailed anthrax letters were key Democrats, and that the attacks occurred one week before passage of the freedom-curtailing PATRIOT Act, which seems to have scared them and the rest of Congress into passing that act without even reading it. And though it may be a coincidence, White House staff began taking the anti-anthrax medicine before the Anthrax attacks occurred.

Even General William Odom, former director of the National Security Agency, said "By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism, yet in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation" (the audio is here).

Why Does This Matter?

Please read what the following highly respected people are saying:

Former prominent Republican U.S. Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr stated that the U.S. is close to becoming a totalitarian society and that the Bush administration used fear to try to ensure that this happened. Current Republican U.S. Congressman Ron Paul stated that the government "is determined to have martial law." He also said a contrived "Gulf of Tonkin-type incident may occur to gain popular support for an attack on Iran." Former National Security Adviser Brzezinski told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation.

The former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration, Paul Craig Roberts, who is called the "Father of Reaganomics" and is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, BusinessWeek, and Scripps Howard News Service, has said:

"Ask yourself: Would a government that has lied us into two wars and is working to lie us into an attack on Iran shrink from staging 'terrorist' attacks in order to remove opposition to its agenda? ... If the Bush administration wants to continue its wars in the Middle East and to entrench the 'unitary executive' at home, it will have to conduct some false flag operations that will both frighten and anger the American people and make them accept Bush's declaration of 'national emergency' and the return of the draft. Alternatively, the administration could simply allow any real terrorist plot to proceed without hindrance."

General Tommy Franks stated that if another terrorist attack occurs in the United States "the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government." Daniel Ellsberg, the famous Pentagon Papers whistleblower, said "if there is another terror attack, I believe the president will get what he wants. And what he wants is a new Patriot Act, one that will make the current Patriot Act look like the Bill of Rights."

Former UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter stated before the Iraq war started that there were no weapons of mass destruction. He is now saying that he would not rule out staged government terror by the U.S. government. And British Parliament Member George Galloway stated that "there is a very real danger" that the American government will stage a false flag terror attack in order to justify war against Iran and to gain complete control domestically.

The abundance of reliable information in this essay suggests that not only has the U.S. in the past conducted false flag operations, but there is a possibility that 9/11 involved some element of this deceit, and a future false flag operation cannot be ruled out. Let us spread this news to all who care so that we might build the critical mass necessary to stop these secret operations and work together for a more caring civil society.

IMAGINE! BBC announced the Collapse of WTC7 *BEFORE* it happened! What A F**K UP!

This was broadcast LIVE! When the moment came that the background would have shown the actual collapse BBC conveniently LOST THE LINE! (The way the line disappears looks like a VIDEO-EFFECT "fade to TV-snow")!!

Thermite Thermate demolition evidence, see videos below

(right-click VIEW IMAGE to zoom in)

The Destruction of Building 7's Remains

Engineering is a science that melds theory and experience to create robust structures. Unintended structural failures are rare events that warrant the most careful scrutiny, since they test engineering theory.

That is why the NTSB carefully documents aircraft crash scenes, and preserves the aircraft remains, frequently creating partial reconstructions in hangars. If an investigation reveals a mechanical or design fault, the FAA usually mandates specific modifications of equipment or maintenance procedures system-wide, and future aircraft are designed to avoid the fault.

Unintended structural failures are less common in steel-framed highrises than in aircraft. Being the only such building in history in which fire is blamed for total collapse, Building 7's remains warranted the most painstaking examination, documentation, and analysis.
aerial view of Ground Zero Building 7's rubble pile was at least as important as any archeological dig. It contained all the clues to one of the largest structural failures in history. Without understanding the cause of the collapse, all skyscrapers become suspect, with profound implications for the safety of occupants and for the ethics of sending emergency personnel into burning buildings to save people and fight fires.

There was no legitimate reason not to dismantle the rubble pile carefully, documenting the position of each piece of steel and moving it to a warehouse for further study. No one was thought buried in the pile, since, unlike the Twin Towers, Building 7 had been evacuated hours before the collapse. The pile was so well confined to the building's footprint that the adjacent streets could have been cleared without disturbing it.

Yet, despite the paramount importance of the remains, they were hauled away and melted down as quickly as possible. The steel was sold to scrap metal vendors and most of it was soon on ships bound for China and India. Some of the smaller pieces and a few token large pieces of steel marked 'save' were allowed to be inspected at Fresh Kills landfill by FEMA's BPAT volunteers.

This illegal evidence destruction operation was conducted over the objections of attack victims' family members and respected public safety officials. Bill Manning, editor of the 125-year-old Fire Engineering Magazine, wrote in an article condemning the operation:

Did they throw away the locked doors from the Triangle Shirtwaist fire? Did they throw away the gas can used at the happy land social club fire? ... That's what they're doing at the World Trade Center. The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately. 1
Dr. Frederick W. Mowrer, an associate professor in the Fire Protection Engineering Department at the University of Maryland, was quoted in the New York Times as saying:
I find the speed with which potentially important evidence has been removed and recycled to be appalling. 2

Officials running the "cleanup operation" took pains to make sure the structural steel didn't end up anywhere but in blast furnaces. They installed GPS locator devices on each of the trucks hauling loads from Ground Zero at a cost of $1000 each. One driver who took an extended lunch break was dismissed. 3


1. Firefighter Mag Raps 9/11 Probe, New York Daily News, [cached]
2. Experts Urging Broader Inquiry in Towers' Fall, New York Times, 12/25/01

9-11 WTC Videos

Video Evidence of the Destruction of the World Trade Center Skyscrapers

The collapses of the Twin Towers and Building 7 were captured in numerous videos. This page includes excerpts from both professional news footage and amateur video recordings.

The Tower Destruction Timelines use these videos.

Videos of the South Tower Destruction

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00:05:23 South Tower collapse from the east
This 15-second NBC video shows the upper 40 stories of both towers, starting just as the top of the South Tower begins to lean. The video was aired by NBC approximately seven minutes after the event.
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00:03:01 South Tower collapse from east, nearby
This 3-second video shows 2.5 seconds of the demolition wave racing down South Tower's southeast and northeast faces.
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00:39:29 South Tower dust
This is a longer version of the previous clip. After the videographer turns around and starts to run, he points the camera backward, recording the encroachment of the monster dust cloud. The clip runs right up to the point that it overtakes him.
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00:21:23 Close-up of start of South Tower collapse from south nearby
This shows the first few seconds of the South Tower collapse from a nearby location to the south. The top of the South Tower starts to lean at about 11 seconds.
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00:06:28 South Tower collapse from east
This 6.7-second video shows about 5 seconds of the destruction of the South Tower.
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00:21:00 South Tower collapse from northeast
This video shows a close-up view of the northeast corner of the South Tower from the onset of the Tower's collapse.

00:12:13 South Tower destruction from northeast
This shows a truncated version of the previous clip, with an added EuroNews banner.
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00:08:00 Onset of South Tower collapse from northwest
This 8-second video shows the South Tower, from a nearby location on West Street less than 800 feet to the northwest of the Tower.
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00:16:00 Onset of South Tower collapse from east
This video shows the destruction of the South Tower from about two seconds after its start, from the east.
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00:19:25 South Tower destruction from southwest
This video begins at about the time the South Tower starts to fall. The videographer looks up to capture the explosion about two seconds later.
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00:14:12 South Tower destruction from south
This video shows the South Tower starting about 3 seconds into its collapse. The video is apparently from helicopter flying at about 1000 feet to the southwest of the Towers.
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00:05:23 South Tower collapse
This video is apparently from the same source as the previous one. It may not play in real time.
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00:22:23 South Tower collapse
This video shows the South Tower collapse from the south-southwest, and is apparently from the same source as the previous two. It is brighter, starts later, and plays through the end of the event.

01:14:07 Multiple views of the South Tower collapse
This 80-second composite from shows portions of the South Tower collapse from five different viewpoints, including three videos listed above.


Afterglow of South Tower from north
This CNN video shows the afterglow of the South Tower collapse, then cuts to the North Tower collapse, showing the dust cloud advancing to the Hudson.
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00:04:27 View of South Tower from Trinity Street
This video shows a close-up of the South Tower's southeast wall as the destruction begins. The photographer is standing on Trinity Street, south of the World Trade Center.

Videos of the North Tower Destruction

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00:09:15 North Tower collapse from north
This video, taken from within 2000 feet of the base of the North Tower, shows the top of the North Tower from about a second after the beginning of the collapse.
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00:22:14 Distant view of North Tower collapse showing squibs
This video shows the North Tower from the distant northeast. It shows the first and second sets of dust ejections.
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01:33:12 Distant view of North Tower collapse from north-northeast
This 94-second CNN clip shows the North Tower collapse, with the collapse starting about 30 seconds into the video. It shows the afterglow, and the dust cloud advancing to the Hudson. Since this video shows the complete collapse, and has a real-time clock, it is especially valuable for documenting the the timeline of the collapse.
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00:15:24 Distant view of North Tower collapse from north-northeast
This clip has the same footage as the second part of the previous one. Because it doesn't start with the zoomed-in view, it shows details early in the event, such as jets of dust, that the zoomed-in view doesn't show.
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00:10:15 View of Noth Tower from distant east
This clip was apparantly taken from the same camera as the first clip of the South Tower above. It starts about two seconds into the North Tower's destruction.
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00:07:27 North Tower collapse from distant northeast
This 8-second KTLA5 video shows the North Tower as it starts to collapse. It shows squibs and streamers ahead of the mushrooming top.
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00:29:18 North Tower collapse from northeast
This 29-second video shows the top of the North Tower from the northeast, with the collapse staring about 16 seconds into the video. It shows that the radio tower starts to descend about a second before the facade stards to move. The clip is from WTC: The First 24 Hours
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00:23:02 North Tower from northeast
This 20-second video shows the North Tower from about 2 seconds into its collapse through the end.
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00:15:00 North Tower collapse from east
This 15-second video shows the collapse of the North Tower from the northeast, from about three seconds after its start through its completion.


North Tower collapse from east
This is the same video as the previous clip, in a WMV format.

00:22:27 North Tower collapse from east
This is apparently extracted from the same original video as the previous clip, but is a closer view, and plays at a fraction of real-time speed.
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00:10:02 North Tower collapse from west
This clip is from the documentary Anatomy of the Collapse.
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00:05:00 North Tower destruction from north
This clip shows the destruction of the North Tower from the northeast.

Videos of Building 7's Destruction

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00:06:28 Building 7 collapse
This 9.6-second video shows the Building 7 collapse from a vantage point only about 1000 feet to the north.
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00:08:29 Building 7 collapse from northeast
This video shows the Building 7 collapse from a vantage point a mile or so to the northeast on Greenwich Street. The view shows the building from top to near street level.
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00:35:13 CBS video of Building 7 collapse
This video provides a distant view of Building 7's collapse from the north.

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00:05:00 Building 7 collapse
This video shows the Building 7 collapse from the north. It plays at a fraction of real-time speed on some systems.


Building 7 collapse

Videos of Eyewitness Recollections of Destruction

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00:29:06 Firemen recall 'detonations' in South Tower
00:26:06 Fireman recalls that everything had 'collapsed to dust'

Videos of Other Controlled Demolitions

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00:26:29 Botched demolition fails to fell Zip Feeds Mill tower
Demolition charges at the base of this 202-foot concrete structure start the collapse, but the structure halts the collapse.

The footage excerpted by many of these videos can be found in the September 11 Television Archive on

Some additional videos found online are listed on the WTC webcasts page.

Americans are uncomfortable with the notion of raising questions over 9/11, but it may be more unpatriotic not to question the clear and established pattern of lying by the Bush White House.

Van Jones
If you want to learn more about Van Jones, try visiting his Website:

(SALEM, Ore.) - The man behind the 9/11 statement controversy in Washington D.C., Anthony "Van" Jones, has nobody in the world to apologize to, especially that pudgy idiot Glen Beck.

I have written several times about the absolute and total impossibility of the "official" government story on 9/11, starting with the alleged terrorists' passports being located on the ground almost immediately, conveniently, by federal officials.

Mostly unburned and perfectly legible, what a lucky break those passports were. The feds had the case wrapped up in about two hours with fingers cocked and pointed toward the Saudi suspects, which were used as a reason to attack Afghanistan... and then Iraq.

Why did Osama bin Laden deny responsibility for the terrorist attacks? Why didn't al Qaeda want to take credit?

Wouldn't you think that a terrorist who scored such a big hit on the U.S. would take full credit for it, why else do it? I realize that the American media aired so-called "bin Laden" tapes every time Americans started to calm down back in those first years after September 11th 2001, but only the powers to be know exactly who we were seeing.

I can tell you for a fact that it takes about an hour's time, driving around certain parts of Afghanistan, to see five or six men who look startlingly similar to bin Laden; including the white hat and the army jacket. They aren't hard to find.

A lot of people in the Mideast say the guy who shows up on the FBI tapes is not bin Laden, but somebody dressed to look like him.

The bottom line is that a scientific analysis of the facts of 9/11, the way the government presents them, lead back to the idea that none of it could have happened the way they describe.

One of the things I frequently ask people is, "How many buildings came down that day in New York City?" While dealing with intelligent people, I frequently hear the answer, "two buildings."

The plane at the Pentagon would have had more than one or two pieces of visible wreckage, and there would have been something remaining of the titanium engine housings.

Federal spokesmen in a Popular Mechanics article called "Debunking the Myths of 9/11" contradict the hell out of each other. In the same article, one states that there is no wreckage of the 757 at the Pentagon, because the plane "turned into something like liquid". Then the other federal spokesman says he "held parts of the crew's uniforms and body parts in his hands".

I had to read it twice before I could even believe they had the audacity to print it. One guy says, the plane turned to liquid while the other guy says he's holding the parts of the people who would have been in the very front of the airplane. Besides, government spokesmen, total "suits", do not venture into high security crash areas and handle torn up human remains, it is a biological hazard and these characters don't put themselves at risk that way.

Americans are uncomfortable with the notion of imagining such a thing could be possible, but I say it is more unpatriotic not to question a clear and established pattern of lying by the Bush White House.

It is not wrong to question your government. Our forefathers like Thomas Jefferson told us it was essential. The list of inconsistencies in that sham of a government investigation, with Ann Coulter calling the wives of firefighters names, is sickening.

Rudy Guiliani had the ground zero concrete hauled overseas and away before federal investigators could go over it. The New York firefighters said they recovered the flight recorders and handed them off to federal investigators, yet the FBI says they were never recovered. An FAA spokesman is quoted saying that they are the only domestic crashes that happened in a contained space in history, where the flight recorders were not recovered.

Who do you believe?


This is the acclaimed documentary, Loose Change Final Cut

If your automatic response is "the federal investigators", then you are probably not going to be able to get to the next step. It is a hard one. Nobody wants to believe this kind of stuff, and no, I don't in any way have the answers.

Here's another one; jet fuel does not and never could burn hot enough to melt steel. The Trade Towers were specifically designed to withstand the impact of a jet liner; they were among the best in the world.

Those who take the time to do the research know that thousands of professors around the country stand behind that. This is where the controversy with Van Jones ties back into it. The twin towers show every sign of having been imploded, and there is a lot of evidence to back that up. The best place to start for those who have the ability to take in the information is found in the documentary Loose Change.

The people who designed the buildings are the source of that information, and it is in Loose Change.

One of the things I frequently ask people is, "How many buildings came down that day in New York City?" While dealing with intelligent people, I frequently hear the answer, "two buildings."

They don't even realize that a third building, known as Building 7, came falling down to the ground at free-fall speed also, nearly eight hours later that day. Beneath it was the gold from the world bank. When they were sifting through the ground zero rubble, one truck was found crushed, filled with gold. Apparently the rest of the trucks with the gold made it out of the building's basement before the implosion took place, forever destroying the evidence.

There is ample evidence that the Trade Towers had unusual activity in the elevator shafts for weeks prior to the catastrophic national tragedy.

How about the "Put Options?" Don't know about that? Well, the stock market went insane in the days leading up to 9/11. It all revolved around the airlines. Do yourself a favor and watch Loose Change and look at the ample evidence and then ask yourself the question, was 9/11 something that the U.S. government somehow was involved in? A large and ever growing group of red, white and blue people want to know.

According to Wikipedia, "In 2004, Jones was one of '100 notable Americans' who signed a '911 Truth Statement' from The statement among other things called (referring to the George W. Bush administration) 'for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war.' On September 3, 2009, after widespread criticism, Jones issued a statement, 'I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever.'"

It wasn't enough, Jones ultimately resigned his position in the White House over the matter. It is sad that President Obama can't be the one who could actually lead a new investigation into the confusing and contradicting events of September 11th 2001.

But just trying to improve healthcare for poor Americans is an extreme uphill battle being met by strong resistance by angry white Republicans. Imagine what they would do to Obama if he actually sought to find the truth of this matter.

Oh yeah, and Jones is also in trouble for calling the republicans "a$#holes".

To demonstrate what perfect asses the Fox News talking heads are on the matter, I saw an article published today by Phil Kerpen of with a headline reading:

How Van Jones Happened and What We Need to Do Next
"Now that Jones has resigned, we need to follow through with two critical policy victories."

What we need to do next, eh Kerpin? Aren't you supposed to be the reporter? It sounds like you are trying to be the guy with the torch leading the peasants up the hill.

You have to love it. Fox is as "us versus them" as Bush's neocons ever were. They are the electronic jackasses for today's GOP; the folks who brought you false WMD's, thousands of dead American troops and a

Tim King is a former U.S. Marine with twenty years of experience on the west coast as a television news producer, photojournalist, reporter and assignment editor. In addition to his role as a war correspondent, this Los Angeles native serves as's Executive News Editor.
Tim spent the winter of 2006/07 covering the war in Afghanistan, and he was in Iraq over the summer of 2008, reporting from the war while embedded with both the U.S. Army and the Marines. Tim holds numerous awards for reporting, photography, writing and editing, including the Oregon AP Award for Spot News Photographer of the Year (2004), the first place Electronic Media Award in Spot News, Las Vegas, (1998), Oregon AP Cooperation Award (1991); and several other awards including the 2005 Red Cross Good Neighborhood Award for reporting. Serving the community in very real terms, is the nation's only truly independent high traffic news Website, affiliated with Google News and several other major search engines and news aggregators.

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